What I mean to ask is, why and how did The Artist's Way suddenly become so popular?
Who funded the idea? Did the author *really* work her way up the hard road that most authors are forced to work up into to even be heard of in significant places?
Was it published by a visionary with a few blind spots? (we all have them, after all)
Was it suggested to be published and a certain author assigned to write it? (these things *do* happen, after all)
The reason i ask is because i'm wondering what makes ideas superficially New Age and what doesn't. You may think this question has little value, but growing numbers of those being colonized by "our" society (in the "Western World" as well as everywhere else) are rising up and articulating that there's a big problem with portions of the information and ideas we're digesting --often without adequate critique.
And i agree with this motion, since i already have had challenges with a certain part of The Artist's Way.
But perhaps you don't think of The Artist's Way as New Age?
Why not? It is certainly giving us a pathway to follow towards an allegedly "new" way of seeing ourselves and others (and yes, i do challenge portions of those ideas).
New Age or not, in your feeling, would anyone be into a dialogue on this?
Who funded the idea? Did the author *really* work her way up the hard road that most authors are forced to work up into to even be heard of in significant places?
Was it published by a visionary with a few blind spots? (we all have them, after all)
Was it suggested to be published and a certain author assigned to write it? (these things *do* happen, after all)
The reason i ask is because i'm wondering what makes ideas superficially New Age and what doesn't. You may think this question has little value, but growing numbers of those being colonized by "our" society (in the "Western World" as well as everywhere else) are rising up and articulating that there's a big problem with portions of the information and ideas we're digesting --often without adequate critique.
And i agree with this motion, since i already have had challenges with a certain part of The Artist's Way.
But perhaps you don't think of The Artist's Way as New Age?
Why not? It is certainly giving us a pathway to follow towards an allegedly "new" way of seeing ourselves and others (and yes, i do challenge portions of those ideas).
New Age or not, in your feeling, would anyone be into a dialogue on this?
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Re: another form of thought control, re: The Artist's Way?
Thu, October 25, 2007 - 8:30 PMSuddenly? Guess you've been out of the loop, cowboy.
While I'm all down with any challenge of ideas, I would have to say that this time smacks of supreme assholiness.
The reason - it is incredibly difficult to be a serious artist, heck to be an artist at all, especially if you would like to make a living some day for your work. But, even for those who were born with gifts, but were not nurtured, the world is cooold place. This culture is all about the almighty dollar, and our "culture" mighty as it is, is fairly twisted when it comes to things creative. The Artists Way has tools which has helped many, many people to unleash, if you will, their inner artist and begin creating.
Is that New Age? I could give a rats ass. But getting in the way of an artist potentially becoming by poo-pooing a very powerful tool, even if it's a little woo-woo, even it's a little off, fuck you....
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Re: another form of thought control, re: The Artist's Way?
Fri, October 26, 2007 - 3:54 PMLook, cruzzin, i ain't challenging the book in whole; there are some valid truths in there. What i'm challenging, if i didn't make myself clear (or you're having the expected knee-jerk reaction), are the ideas within it, --and as well, the truth that today's information method (like all "good propaganda") ALWAYS uses *germs of truth* to interest and *hook* the attention of a targeted group. This time around, we creative folks called artists.
Yes, the art industry is a cooolllld place. And if some fascist look-alike (albeit, this time apparently coming from an internalized or strategically challenged mind-set via Julia Cameron) comes along and aids the pained, we should just remain silent and go along with the program like good little citizens? i don't think so!
The reality that "our" culture is *fairly twisted* is a good way to smack us into a more conscious state. But Julie's book (and aggressions within) works to lull us to sleep more, while a few who ain't so sleepy, and are rebelling intuitively, are to be ignored and scapegoated. And our role as *antennae* for the culture, fogged over even more! (The fog we already get includes the idea that it is "normal" for creative people--and everyone else-- to remain subordinated to, enhancing, and strengthening the *fairly twisted* cult-ure, instead of leading in changes, and evolutions of it!)
If i have to appear to be His Assholiness to get these truths across, so be it!
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Re: another form of thought control, re: The Artist's Way?
Fri, October 26, 2007 - 5:26 PMallrighty, then
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Re: another form of thought control, re: The Artist's Way?
Fri, March 28, 2008 - 9:58 AMIt might help if you were more specific about your critique. Right now your gripe is vague and really doesn't make much sense.
And just to be clear, I tried the Artist's Way program and found it didn't work with my creative method and temperament. I never got through the whole book so I am not even presenting myself as an authority on the matter. For others I know it worked out just fine.
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Re: another form of thought control, re: The Artist's Way?
Mon, March 31, 2008 - 5:22 PMWell, i had one...but i see that the blog-thingy i put it up on has somehow apparently swiped it clear of being here. That means i'll have to go look for it, without much motivation except from you. Tho i do appreciate, and am glad i spotted this event!
As for the book helping others "just fine", i happen to see that such a book is "good" for slaves working at their wages, or for "hobbyists" who can see nothing more. Confined, we are in control of our thought and imagination, even as we imagine.
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